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Post by swifty on Jun 17, 2009 16:03:26 GMT
Hi Guys Been quiet on this one as I'm new to the racing scene. I am, however, of the opinion that we do stick to the 1000cc limit, with normally aspirated engines. As I see it, that's what the society has been formed for! There seem to be plenty of opportunities for turbo and blown engines elsewhere. I know some cars will be more (probably far more) competitive than others, but I feel that cars of similar size (body and engines) would give an impressive line up and make for exciting races, as opposed to being mixed in with bigger machines with much greater power on tap, making for some complicated handicapping system. Obviously there will be a handicapping system, but it would be nice if the race winners were, more often than not, the race winners. Am I naiive, is that how you spell it, by the way? Or will I get more cynical with a few un-competitive races under my belt?
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Post by limjamrace on Jun 22, 2009 9:28:46 GMT
O' so wise Gerry..I think we are all getting a bit over enthusiastic about this. Your right lets spend this year getting as many people interested and bang all the bits out later! Since 1980 it was my ambition to get everyone in the Imp Car club involved in competition with an Imp. Well what else is there to do with a car that was otherwise intended as a girlie shopping car!! I failed to do so!! Now by 2011 it is my intention to have every 100/1000 competittor running forced induction! You know it makes sense!!
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Post by simonh on Jun 23, 2009 22:09:27 GMT
Dave mentioned the Anglesey winter races which Gerry and did a number of times with Vince and Andy before they moved up to HRSR, this event still happens and is a brilliant starting point for anyone with a race car but no ARDS licence. It is not the wacky races that it once was and you do need a full cage with door bars,extinguisher and cut off swich. It is run by the Anglesey car club as a charity event with extra chicanes to distinguish the track from an MSA track and it is a rallycross format of four 5 lap heats. If we could confirm at least 8 cars the club would give us our own heats, this happenned one time when we had 6 imps , a metro and a nova. If you are up for it I will get a cage in the G15 and support this event again.
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Post by limjamrace on Jun 24, 2009 10:19:58 GMT
Good idea ,and something for 2010 perhaps as a wetter of encouragement for the 100+ registered HTS set!!
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Post by gerryrichards on Jun 24, 2009 12:49:47 GMT
I think there might be some mileage in the Angelsey idea and members are free to discuss the Anglesey idea on this forum, although it should be approached as a 'non-official' venture rather than an official part of our HTS strategy. This leaves me to concentrate on MSA endorsed series and ideas. Anything which gets cars out there is a good thing, although someone mentioned earlier the possibiliity of involvement in non-MSA events leading to black marks against drivers. I don't know what the evidence of this is and it may be incorrect but I think it's important that people getting invovled in the Anglesey events do their owbn research on this.
I'll start a separate thread on the general board to keep this discussion separate.
Cheers
Gerry
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Post by racingclan1 on Jun 24, 2009 14:03:53 GMT
I see that we have had a mention on Spadge Hopkins Ginetta Heritage forum as an outlet for racing G15's. He also mentions a possibility as a separate class within the Classic Sports Car Club Swinging 60's or Future Classics. Both of these are basically 2 driver formats and do keep the costs down when sharing a car although they can be done with a single driver with an appropriate cost increase. Also this year it has been possible to share a race with 2 cars. I've done several; races with the Swinging 60's and I can confirm that they are well organised by a friendly club.
I do feel, however, that as an means of getting this series going the above are likely to prove too expensive. One good point of both the above series is that they are restricted to one type of tyre, Yokohama A048 although I believe that in the Swinging 60's the Dunlop Historic tyre is allowed.
On the tyre front I accept that having one eligible tyre appears to have advantages and in most instances this rule appears to work best where the tyre is chosen from List 1B. However, these tyres can be quite expensive.
Over the last 2- 3 years most of you will know that I have been racing mainly in Europe and in the series I compete in slicks are allowed. Initially I continued to use the Yoko 048's I was using in the UK but on looking into the costs of slicks I decided to take the plunge. A set of Michelin Formula Renault front slicks can be had in good second hand condition for £20/tyre and sometimes less. I've found these to be good for at least a season and have been lucky to sell them on a £10/tyre. It does mean, however, that another tyre is necessary for when it rains and whilst I have used the Yoko's, last year I had a free set of very old Formula Ford wets but fortunately I did not have to use them. This year, however, I've just got hold of a set of slightly used Michelin Formula Renault wets at £35/tyre.
At the end of the day then my tyres for this season have cost me the grand total of £220 plus carriage and fitting. I would expect the wets to last me for several seasons and I'd look to replace the slicks at the end of the season. These figures are considerably cheaper than a set of appropriately sized Yoko's of which I would probably expect to replace 2 at the end of the season, particularly if they are the supersoft.
What I'm getting at on the tyre front is that although the adoption of a single tyre type may seem attractive it may not necessarily be the cheapest option.
Pete Richards
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Post by mark on Jun 26, 2009 10:23:49 GMT
although someone mentioned earlier the possibiliity of involvement in non-MSA events leading to black marks against drivers. I don't know what the evidence of this is and it may be incorrect but I think it's important that people getting invovled in the Anglesey events do their owbn research on this. See C(d) 1(i) in the 2009 Blue book. It is *very* selectively enforced. I just don't want to take a chance on finding myself in front of a tribunal.
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